Obama in Bristol

**1inStripes** · June 5th, 2008, 02:22 PM

He is a great speaker. The problem can be the substance.

**sup-rbeast** · June 5th, 2008, 02:32 PM

Compared to what he's running against, the substance is there.

**1inStripes** · June 5th, 2008, 02:33 PM

I don't know that the substance is that great from either.

**sup-rbeast** · June 5th, 2008, 03:07 PM

Me neither...but I know which one offers the best chance of departure from what the last 8 years have been.

**R0cketer** · June 5th, 2008, 10:54 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: oakland raiders</div><div class="ubbcode-body">dude better be careful around here someone may try and axe him </div></div>

You should be glad nothing happened today, if it had, you would have had more secret service checking your body cavities than anybody should want.

All this being said though, was discussing it today. If anybody with a lick of sense, some semi-thought out plans, and fair financial backing ever wanted to run third party, this would be the time. The Democratic side is/was pitiful, when all they had to do was get behind someone who wasn't an oddity (and by that I mean either the first woman or the first black), who showed the slightest bit of new thinking and it would have been a cakewalk. The Republicans needed to go 180% degrees away from Bush and old thinking and they could have whipped the crap out of either of the 2 final Democrats, but they picked another old thinker. It's not voting for the best candidate this year, no matter who someone votes for, its voting for the lesser of the 2 evils (and honestly unless someone is just purely a Repub. or Dem., nobody should know who it is, because neither have really said much as far as any plans, ideas or what they want to do).

On a slightly related topic, if anybody wants to see someone who is going to absolutely roll an opponent, this is the person who will.

YouTube - Mark Warner Ad: "Budget Mess"

**1inStripes** · June 5th, 2008, 11:56 PM

I thought the last election options were pretty bad, but I do believe this one is worse.

**neutral88** · June 6th, 2008, 12:59 AM

If Huckabee had of won the republican nod, he would get over 60% of the popular vote...

Same can be said for a saine democrat...

**1inStripes** · June 6th, 2008, 09:06 AM

Bringing up Warner Rock, do you think he may get the VP nod? It wouldn't be a bad thing for Obama, but I sort of think Webb might get it to have someone with prior military experience that he can show off on how he will have military knowledge the presidency.

June 6th, 2008, 10:23 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1inStripes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bringing up Warner Rock, do you think he may get the VP nod? It wouldn't be a bad thing for Obama, but I sort of think Webb might get it to have someone with prior military experience that he can show off on how he will have military knowledge the presidency. </div></div>
Why? We have had 8 years without the benefit. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]
And it seems our friends have our next "course " laid out for US.

updated 51 minutes ago
JERUSALEM - An Israeli attack on Iranian nuclear sites looks "unavoidable"? given the apparent failure of sanctions to deny Tehran technology with bomb-making potential, one of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's deputies said Friday.

"If Iran continues with its program for developing nuclear weapons, we will attack it. The sanctions are ineffective,"? Transport Minister Shaul Mofaz told the mass-circulation Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24998146

**cvcgrad** · June 6th, 2008, 10:55 AM

Talking with many of my democrat friends, I've learned that most are planning to write-in Hillary as their vote for President. I may very well do the same.

Now, that might just be a regional bias in an area where Obama is not as popular as other areas. But, I don't think he has the ability to unify the democrat party. I think you'll see a large percentage of democrats who simply will not vote, rather than cast their vote for Obama.

I think the things that disturb me most about Obama are the comments he has made about rural America as well as the racial controversy that has come from his "former" church.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Victory or Death</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm by no means a democrat, but he sounded pretty good this morning.</div></div>